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Hi.

I have tried to make my own derollers but I get light crease where the edge rolls around
( repeated on each completed roll)
I’m printing mostly on Crane Museo Silver Rag and have started with the new beautiful
Innova UltraSmooth FibaPrint Gloss 285 gms
http://www.innovaart.com/news.php

The latter is really stiff and is really hard to uncurl with my homemade deroller without getting crease marks.

How does the Bienfang De-roller work?.
Is the carier stiff enough to keep the paper close to the roll so you dont get any crease/roll marks while Derolling?

I live in Sweden ( where it’s not sold) So I have to order 1 from US and have no chanse to “try” if it realy works on these papers.
thanks.

Patrick

Hi Patrick!

For those out there who have never heard of a deroller, here is a link that explains what it is:

http://www.inkjetart.com/misc/droller/index.html

I have had a lot of success using the Bienfang De-roller with thick papers.  It is convenient and easy to use, however, I do know what you mean by a light crease that repeats itself! 

I have experienced this same problem with the Bienfang De-roller.

I’ve tried to figure out what causes this, and my best guess is that the weight of the bar has something to do with it.

One thing that also works is to cover the print with tissue paper and then roll it up on a small diameter tube.  Then you can either put that in a tube or roll sheets of paper around it and tape the paper so it doesn’t unroll.  If you do that and leave the paper rolled up for at least 30 minutes, it often works.  I don’t get the creases with that method and I think it is because of the lack of weight.

So, I guess I’d have to say that you will probably get some creases with the deroller as well, but I should also point out that those creases seem to relax and not show after sitting out for a day, have you seen that they relax out on your end as well?

Hi Stephen.

Thanks for your reply.

My crease marks relax some but not enough ( even after a couple of days)
I did not do that many tests on the Innova paper since it had to go back due to manufakturer fault.
Maby “ glossy” fine art papers are more sensible and harder to uncurl without getting crease marks.

I even got them on one of my deroller where I used a 3"shipping tube and 0.019” polycarbonate sheetings (I sandwiched the paper between 2 sheets).
But the paper had to stay for more than 3h to get reasonable flat ( not flat enough)

I think you might be right about the weight to be 1 of the reasons for the marks.I also ( in my designs) think I eigther didn’t have stiff enough carrier to hold the paper close enough to the roll and therefore got marks from the edge of the paper meeting the surface of the carrier and then getting a small “dent"because there is now a “seam” in the roll.

Hmm now I don’t know what to do..
If the Bienfang De-roller leaves crasemarks aswell,then paying a couple $100 (shipping to Sweden,customs fee and V.A T) to get what I’m getting now seems pointless.

I wich papper manufacturers would start making 17"x25" cut sheets for us Epson 3800 users

Patrick,

Yeah, I think that you will probably be happy with the ease of use of the De-roller, but I imagine that you will have the same results as you are now having.

17x25” paper is a good solution.  A company near me has apparently been having people ask for that size paper because they are now beginning to have their suppliers cut that size on a few of their papers.

You know what you could do is take a 17 inch roll and cut out 17x25 inch sheets yourself in advance.  And then either roll them backwards for a while or lay them upside down and let gravity work on them for the days, weeks, and months that you are not yet using them.  That might work.  It would at least begin to relax them.  In fact, you could put books on the ends and have that weigh down the paper.

Good luck!

Stephen

Thanks for your answers ans solutions.
I have actually made a 17"x26" box of acid free mountboard for my cut sheets.

When you say upside down, do you mean with the surface down?
When I cut my sheets they are so curled so they roll to a cylinder themself and the only way I could start to relax them would be to lay them surface upp.

Anyway this has made me wonder if the best solution ( if I want to cut a whole roll at once) would be to counter roll the whole roll on another tube and let is set for a couple of h or days( depending on how much derolling each paper needs). then cut all sheets at once.
Then allow the sheets to relax the last bit in the box.

Maby put the roll in a room with more humidity ( when derolled).

Patrick